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13 words that are better than "random"

Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:13 PM EDT
education, pain, language, random, usage
By Ryan Stolte-Sawa

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The word "random" means occurring without definite aim, reason or pattern, and yet it seems to be disproportionately distributed in the speech patterns of young people under 30. I'd estimate nine out of ten times I hear the word "random," it is used out of context, in a slang context, or just plain incorrectly.

Broaden your vocabularies, kids! Here are 13 words that are more descriptive, more eloquent, and certainly less random than "random."

Instead of describing an event as "random," try:
Arbitrary, meaning subject to individual will or judgment without discretion, as an arbitrary decision.
Capricious, meaning subject to whim or caprice.
Chance, as in a chance encounter.

Instead of using "random" to describe someone's unexpected behaviour, try:
Casual, perfunctory or slapdash, meaning unplanned, unintentional or careless, as in a casual remark, a perfunctory reaction or slapdash manner.

Instead of using "random" to denote something of interest, try:
Fascinating, compelling or provocative. These are all words you guys know. Use them!!

If you're about to describe a sequence of events or grouping of objects which are unrelated, how about:
Miscellaneous, meaning an unrelated grouping of things, such as thoughts.
Sundry, meaning varied, as in a sundry of feelings.

Instead of using "random" to judge a person or event, try:
Confused, meaning indistinct or indiscernable. "I'm feeling confused today."
Baffling, as in a baffling opinion.

Please, young folk, try to be conscious of when you use, or are about to use, the word "random." Consider the pain you may cause me, your friend and fellow English speaker. Use better words! Or, if you must use "random," use it thusly:

"We had a ridiculous night last night. We met a couple of randoms at the bar and did it the @!$%# up! Wish you'd have been there."

Revised: 19 March, 2:20PM

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Ryan Stolte-Sawa

Please, please, use more words!

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:25 PM EDT
Eric Atienza

While I agree that people use random far too often, a lot of those words aren't close synonyms to the word "random". I would never use "casual", "perfunctory", "fascinating", "compelling", or "provocative" in place of "random".

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:46 PM EDT
Ryan Stolte-Sawa

My point is that most people who use the word random use it incorrectly.

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:47 PM EDT
TomPitysFools

The word "random" means occurring without definite aim, reason or pattern, and yet it seems to be disproportionately distributed in the speech patterns of young people under 30.

So would you say they use random...at random?

Just my random observation.

  • 4 votes
#2.2 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:00 PM EDT
Eric Atienza

I think she's saying people are using "random"... *looks at list*... arbitrarily.
Hey, I did it!

  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:50 PM EDT
Ryan Stolte-Sawa

^__^

  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:08 PM EDT
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Adam Hobson

Instead of describing an event as "random," try: Arbitrary

Random and arbitrary are not interchangeable. Each has a very distinct meaning.

By the way, what's up with this flurry of posting all recently? Kinda random isn't it :P

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:40 PM EDT
Ryan Stolte-Sawa

If people used the word "random" correctly, I could agree with you.

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:10 PM EDT
TomPitysFools

Actually, when I just looked up "arbitrary" on the web's best online dictionary: Ninjawords, I found the following definition:

arbitrary
(adj) : determined by impulse rather than reason; chosen for no reason or at random
"the equation is true for an arbitrary value of x."

...so maybe they are interchangeable.

If the Internet says so, it must be true.

  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:24 PM EDT
Adam Hobson

Tom, Tom, Tom. Did you not learn anything from computer science? They hammered it into us to not confuse random with arbitrary.

Try using encryption with an arbitrary key rather than a random (or pseudo-random) key.

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:14 PM EDT
TomPitysFools

Would a ninja lie? That would totally be against the errr...ninja-code-of-honor...or something...

And for the record, all my encryption is done using the Goldeneye inspired arbitrary key of "boobies". It makes it easier to replicate errors.

  • 1 vote
#3.4 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:30 PM EDT
Adam Hobson

Notice that is an arbitrarily inspired key, not a random one...

    #3.5 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:58 PM EDT
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    Dawgstar

    I quite agree with the dismal abuse of the word 'random'. Yet there is a sociological need for young humans to appropriate language and make it their own. Consider 'awesome', or 'sweet' or even 'cool' or, for that fact, a large portion of the English language - words whose meanings have drifted considerably through the centuries. And perhaps there's some emotional truth to the way it's being used, which may relate to their general suspicion that much of current life is, in fact, random. So that even if in a particular instance the word doesn't really apply, the overall usage accurately reflects their interpretation of reality. However, inasmuch as little in our culture does not arise causally, what perhaps we have is a case of young people in a state of denial... At any rate, there is some cultural relevance here, and their usage is not entirely 'random'.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:30 PM EDT
    TomPitysFools

    And perhaps there's some emotional truth to the way it's being used, which may relate to their general suspicion that much of current life is, in fact, random. So that even if in a particular instance the word doesn't really apply, the overall usage accurately reflects their interpretation of reality.

    I think you're on to something there.

    I think it's also interesting to consider where the word ought to be/was commonly used before it was appropriated. My guess would be it was found mostly in math, science and gambling. The first two fields are centered around a striving for predictability and the last is mostly an irrational attempt to predict the unpredictable. Random is entirely the opposite of predictable.

    We've taken random from denoting the unknowable to meaning merely out of the ordinary.

    The big question is: how to trump this?

    If I had to push a cool new slang word right now, it would be impossible.

    As in, did you see that impossible touchdown? His souped-up Camaro is plain impossible. Or: that chick's so hot, she's impossible.

    Up the ante. Just completely ignore what the word is supposed to mean, and focus on how much status it will confer when you finally achieve/possess/have sex with something/one that is it. This is essentially what the "randomizers" have done.

    • 2 votes
    #4.1 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:53 PM EDT
    Ryan Stolte-Sawa

    Impossible is pretty good. I actually use it.

    • 2 votes
    #4.2 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:04 PM EDT
    Adam Hobson

    You would :P

      #4.3 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:02 PM EDT
      Ryan Stolte-Sawa

      Yes. I do.

        #4.4 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:05 PM EDT
        Adam Hobson

        Kathleen :P

          #4.5 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:15 PM EDT
          Ryan Stolte-Sawa

          Yes?

            #4.6 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT
            Adam Hobson

            impossible!

              #4.7 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:33 PM EDT
              TomPitysFools

              Boo-yah! I started a trend. I'm a trend-setter.

                #4.8 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:45 PM EDT
                Adam Hobson

                That's random.

                  #4.9 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:24 PM EDT
                  Ryan Stolte-Sawa

                  Dude, you're not funny.

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.10 - Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:27 AM EDT
                  finalcut

                  Dawgstar - I can think of no word more "changed" by the times over the past 50 years than the term "Dick" - when my father in law was young it was simply a nickname for Richard. Now you will rarely, if ever, meet a person under the age of 40 who goes by the name Dick simply because of the connotation the name took on.

                  According to my father-in-law this happened sometime in the early to mid sixties.

                  My mother-in-law was unaware of the more vulgar usage until about four years ago when she was telling us about a friend of hers from highschool named Richard Head. Of course she didn't use the name Richard. It was hilarious.

                  Sorry, I know it seems I may have pulled this tangential topic randomly out of my ass but I couldn't help share it when I saw Dawgstar talk about how youth take words and change their meaning.

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.11 - Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:36 PM EDT
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                  Zaki

                  ah i see.

                  it's no longer a random fling, it is a compelling fling.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#5 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:10 PM EDT
                  Ryan Stolte-Sawa

                  Yes.

                  • 1 vote
                  #5.1 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:15 PM EDT
                  Eric Atienza

                  Or a slapdash fling. Hopefully not a confusing and baffling fling.

                  • 2 votes
                  #5.2 - Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:16 PM EDT
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                  HonkyTonk

                  You missed one--how about stochastic? As in "Here, we present a stochastic approach to study the dynamics of networks formed by macromolecular complexes in terms of the molecular interactions of their components."

                  Or, "Dude, that last wave was totally stochastic. And thus, I am totally stoked"

                    Reply#6 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:55 PM EDT
                    Only Known SurvivorDeleted
                    Rachelsb

                    I love this list. I'm an English nerd and always love new vocab. I love this list so much, in fact, that I created a list on ListAfterList.com just for it. I've credited you and if you have any other vocab or other lists you'd like to get out there, this site seems to be the place to do it. Check it out:

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#8 - Wed May 9, 2007 12:02 PM EDT
                    Pedro A.

                    Sorry, but there's no so thing as "incorrect" usage when enough people do it. A new sense has been added to the definition of random, but dictionaries haven't captured it yet.

                    You are witnessing language change.

                      Reply#9 - Wed May 9, 2007 1:02 PM EDT
                      Ryan Stolte-Sawa

                      How patronizing of you.

                        #9.1 - Wed May 9, 2007 6:59 PM EDT
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                        HalcyonPink

                        How's this for random... that picture is of me (lifestudent.com). Randomly found by a friend who sent this url to me. :)

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#10 - Wed May 9, 2007 1:16 PM EDT
                        josh

                        Hey, that brings up another commonly (mis)used sense of 'random'. Really unlikely.

                        But please. . don't call it ironic. That makes angels cry.

                          #10.1 - Thu May 10, 2007 12:30 AM EDT
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                          Lydia-148726

                          Please, young folk, try to be conscious of when you use, or are about to use, the word "random." Consider the pain you may cause me,

                          Oh, for Christ's sake, they are not hurting you. Your bleating is ten times worse.

                            Reply#11 - Fri May 18, 2007 6:23 PM EDT
                            Ryan Stolte-Sawa

                            You don't have to get belligerent. This is mostly in jest. Don't take @!$%# so seriously. For Christ's sake.

                            • 2 votes
                            #11.1 - Fri May 18, 2007 6:59 PM EDT
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                            IreneNorton

                            I respectfully decline to take usage advice from someone who uses the word "thusly".

                              Reply#12 - Sun May 20, 2007 8:51 PM EDT
                              jazzle

                              I believe it is most commonly used to mean 'bizarre' or 'unexplainable/inexplicable (with my current knowledge of the situation'.

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#13 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:59 AM EST
                              Adam Hobson

                              This article just randomly showed up in my conversation tracker. I thought I'd share that with everyone.

                              • 5 votes
                              Reply#14 - Sat Apr 4, 2009 7:24 PM EDT
                              spiffie

                              That's actually been happening to me over the last couple of days. An ancient article will show up in the tracker but there will be no new comments (I search for "2009" when it happens, and no hits). It's happened three or four times.

                              It's not annoying enough yet for me to report it though. :-)

                              • 5 votes
                              #14.1 - Sat Apr 4, 2009 7:33 PM EDT
                              Adam Hobson

                              Yea, this isn't the first time for me either, though I think it's only been on old articles, as opposed to old seeds, but I'm not certain about that. I almost feel that it would be a fun feature to pull up a random article of the past each day, just to remember what newsvine was like way back then ;-)

                              • 4 votes
                              #14.2 - Sat Apr 4, 2009 8:39 PM EDT
                              spiffie

                              I almost feel that it would be a fun feature to pull up a random article of the past each day, just to remember what newsvine was like way back then ;-)

                              I was going to suggest that perhaps lauhal finally cracked the Newsvine servers, and she's responsible for it. I suppose we could just call it the "lauhal zombie article bug" until a better name for it comes along.

                              • 5 votes
                              #14.3 - Sat Apr 4, 2009 8:56 PM EDT
                              Ryan Stolte-Sawa

                              pull up a random article of the past each day

                              I think Scott Butki was doing that for a while.

                              Hi guys! :)

                              • 2 votes
                              #14.4 - Sat Apr 4, 2009 9:47 PM EDT
                              Reply
                              oldfogey

                              This article just showed up from random. I randomly go through old articles but I didn't ran in to this dom one before. Hello there, Child!

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#15 - Sat Apr 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT
                              Paddy Ryan

                              I didn't ran in to this dom one before

                              Aha! A walkdom act!

                              Hello there, Child!

                              Hi, dad.

                              • 2 votes
                              #15.1 - Sun Apr 5, 2009 10:53 AM EDT
                              Ryan Stolte-Sawa

                              Hey Jer. I still have your purse full of batteries. That's a great excuse to come see our new house. ;)

                                #15.2 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 9:38 AM EDT
                                oldfogey

                                Geez, you make it sound like I carry a purse to fend of molesters. Had I been you I would have been taking advantage of all those batteries and the rechargers that are with them. I know, I must get to Columbus and visit. I go there occassionaly. Just visited the new Chambers Wylie VA Clinic where James Road and Stelzner come together. Should have called.

                                  #15.3 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 10:00 AM EDT
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                                  Matt Sheehan

                                  I think "coincidentally" should have been included in this list.

                                    Reply#16 - Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:55 PM EST
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